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March 2, 2008

Shearer Wants to Mainstream i5/OS by 2009

Last week my colleague Rita-Lyn Sanders and I spoke with Mark Shearer, who is now the vice president of Marketing and Offerings for the IBM Business Systems unit. The topic? The "i" in 2008. Obviously, the major change affecting the System i world is IBM's reorganization and the customer rather than product-oriented approach to selling IBM solutions. Shearer mentioned that he's been wanting IBM to go in this customer-focused direction for about seven years.

"From our clients' point of view, they are so happy we are moving to more of a consultative approach, taking all of our systems capability to them as a portfolio rather than having different product teams, dealing with them separately, competing with each other in front of them . . . so this client-oriented approach is something I really believe in. It turns out that the System i client base is probably our single most important client base in our general business space," Shearer said.

"More than 90 percent of the System i clients fall into our general business segment definition, and my role in this business systems division is that I'm responsible for marketing and the offerings, all of the product lines -- System i, System p, Blades, and System x, storage, and System z for the small and medium business-sized clients . . . but the System i franchise is certainly our largest and most prevalent client base, so I will continue to be very engaged with the i community," he added.

The conversation was a quick half-hour, covering a lot of ground, and I'll share the key excerpts and do a little after-the-fact deconstruction of Shearers comments -- sort of like reading between the lines.

Shearer:

"In my first two and half years in System i, I got an awful lot of feedback from clients that they wanted to pay for what they use, that they wanted us to improve the price-to-value ratio . . . and we relaunched our entire entry-level product line back in April -- that ultimately drove more than 25 percent volume growth last year in System i."

CM Note:

25 percent volume growth . . . definitely a nice uptick in sales. Volume is far different from revenue, of course, especially as the price of small systems edges lower.

Shearer:

"I got very positive response to the idea of this, 'Let me pay for what I use' in very granular elements or capacity . . . our offering structures going forward, we're going to continue to do the kinds of things we introduced last year in terms of the operating system itself, and in our larger systems, we're going to continue to make it more granular, by engine, by capability, so that people can pay for what they use. On the low end of the product line, we're going to continue to offer an end-user-based approach to i5/OS pricing because that seemed to play very well in the marketplace."

CM Note:

The idea of System i customers paying only for what they use is fantastic for some but a total transformation for others. Some customers expect "everything" to come bundled together in one solid, cost-effective package, and this change may spark some resentment, some feelings of being nickel-and-dimed. As long as the nickels and dimes create a favorable sum total, this won't be much of an issue.

Shearer:

"One of the things I'm really excited about . . . is the support of our BladeCenter product line. A lot of our clients have an awful lot of Wintel systems beside their System i, and the ability to run i5/OS in an IBM BladeCenter and integrate it with the Wintel or Lintel systems, I think it's going to spark the imagination in a lot of our client base. When all is said and done, I really think the secret sauce of the System i is the operating system, and we'll continue to focus on that discreetly."

CM Note:

There are two key points here: 1) IBM sees major SMB market opportunity in using the BladeCenter model as a consolidation and simplification play in SMB organizations that have the System i in place. Where the System i failed to capture market share as a consolidation box, the BladeCenter, which doesn't have a clear OS bias, may reign supreme in these organizations. If IBM can capture sales that would have gone into, say, a Dell box, IBM will not only better serve its customers, but it'll also rapidly scale the overall IBM share of the SMB's budget. Smart move, really. 2) Shearer is saying that i5/OS is the secret sauce and that IBM will focus on i5/OS. What does this really mean? Nothing that hasn't already been happening. IBM will continue to build hardware capable of running both AIX and i5/OS . . . and the System i as a system will likely cease to exist . . . while i5/OS will continue on. Important point: Shearer didn't say this. I'm reading between the lines, and this is what I think is going to happen.

Shearer:

Shearer said he thinks the i-focused industry is waiting for the POWER6 version of IBM's i5 systems in both the low end and at IBM's very high end, noting that the 570 has been very well received.

"The other thing that's going to be interesting for our i client base is PowerVM and really leveraging the virtualization capability of our hypervisor. You'll notice with the POWER6 introduction, we make the financial equation significantly more attractive for virtualizing Unix and i5/OS on the same system, and I think we're going to get a lot of interest there."

Shearer referenced a survey of IBM's larger clients, two-thirds of which said that if the economics were more attractive, they would want to virtualize their i5 and Unix capabilities.

CM Note:

OK, here's another point: IBM's larger clients want i5/OS and Unix on the same box. It doesn't take a private investigator to figure out that p and i are heading toward pi.

Shearer:

Shearer pointed out that quite a bit is happening in 2008 -- a new version of i5/OS (V6R1) and a lot of new POWER6 hardware.

"This is my fourth year associated with the System i, and ironically some of the things I started working on five years ago are coming to market this year," he said, noting that he introduced the BladeCenter five and a half years ago, and he wanted i5/OS support back then.

"At the end of the year, what I want our i clients to feel and feed back to me is that i5/OS is absolutely a mainstream operating system supported on IBM's hottest products, and I think we've got some pretty exciting steps we'll take over the course of the year."

CM Note:

First of all, Shearer wants i5/OS to succeed in the market, and it's clear that his vision for how this is likely to play out will be the transformation of i5/OS onto "IBM's hottest products" . . . which will likely head toward being OS-neutral, for all intents and purposes. Personally, I see this as a double-edged sword -- to put i5/OS on a blade in a BladeCenter is to make i5/OS just another operating system, which mainstreams it; but at the same time, if you put i5/OS on a blade, it has a chance to shine next to the other operating systems that also live on blades in the BladeCenter.

Shearer:

"The truth is, these i clients are spending three times as much on those Wintel systems -- they are spending a huge amount managing their Wintel environment, their SANs, and if we can simplify the whole environment instead of the part that already runs beautifully, I think we can really help our clients."

CM Note:

Shearer is likely thinking of how the BladeCenter can do this. This comment, of course, reinforces the idea that IBM's sales growth play will veer heavily toward convincing System i shops to buy more IBM products via the IBM BladeCenter.

Shearer:

Shearer noted that the Business Systems group is focused on a lot of products and will definitely go after new SMB customers -- for example, via Vertical Industry Program (VIP) types of initiatives.

"I do think System i is right at the heart of some of the BladeCenter S and POWER6 products that we'll be introducing."

CM Note:

No real comments here, but at this point in the conversation, I asked how IBM plans to introduce the solutions. Through a larger direct sales force? With more IBM feet on the street? How will IBM get in front of i5 shops with the broader message?

Shearer:

He said IBM would continue to work through Business Partners, noting that the SMB space is highly fragmented and can best be approached by invigorating local Business Partners and Independent Software Vendors (ISVs) through efforts like the VIP program.

"It's actually having a material impact in revenue and volumes, and we'll continue that approach rather than having IBM 'blue suits' calling on these clients because we need local expertise, we need industry expertise, we need product expertise, and in many instances we need to create a little consortium to make that work."

CM Note:

This is a good method. The more people who are invested in selling IBM solutions, the bigger the ecosystem IBM will be able to service.

Shearer:

"If we take an IBM-wide approach, I can create these local ecosystems with i5/OS, Unix, Linux, or Windows applications, and because of our more integrated product families with POWER systems and BladeCenter, we can combine these in a single infrastructure more smoothly."

Shearer went on to discuss how IBM's clients -- the business executives rather than technology managers -- are not particularly hung up on the technology . . . that clients are looking to buy business functions -- solutions -- more so than technology.

CM Note:

The "System i" as a complete box, in and of itself, as a technology solution best suited to run a particular application or type of application, as being better at anything than another system . . . I don't think we'll be hearing that kind of message from IBM.

Shearer:

"One of the messages I want the industry to hear this year is that i5/OS is going forward. We have used different processors, we've had different names, but we've protected our clients' investments in their applications for a couple of decades. When I really listen to what our clients are asking for, they want to move forward with systems but they want protection of their investment. We're trying to prepare i5/OS to be the secret sauce that allows them to exploit new offerings like Blades or POWER systems but still have the benefit of coming forward with their applications."

CM Note:

This message seems really clear to me. I don't think IBM is going to be explicit in saying this any time soon, especially with all the POWER6 systems that will hit the market this year, but the System i as we know it, as a black box, is disintegrating . . . and what's left -- the piece that will rise from the rubble -- is i5/OS.

Posted by cmaxcer at March 2, 2008 11:47 PM

Comments

Did Shearer explain, was he asked why there is a $15K per JS22 core surcharge for i5/OS vs AIX? The $250 price per user for i5/OS is the equivalent of AIX + DB2 for the system p customer. Customers prefer AIX and Linux to i5/OS by a factor of maybe 4 to 1 ( guessing, based on unit sales ). Yet still IBM overcharges for i5/OS. Why?

Would be great if the IBM execs could ever be asked directly why no improvements in the core ILE and i5/OS bits since the 1990s. Our system still has 10 char name limitations, 16 meg segment addressing ( which makes for buggy code ), and an ILE that is much inferior to .NET.

-Steve

Posted by: steve richter at March 3, 2008 12:54 PM

Steve with irrelevancies again.

Posted by: Alan at March 3, 2008 3:50 PM

Steve, it all comes down to money. IBM is investing where they see a large profit margin and they know that the i community will take whatever is given or driven to them, so to speak. That is until the next generation of mgt comes along and only knows wintel and IBM goes the way of DEC......

Posted by: Bentley Pearson at March 3, 2008 3:52 PM

I've been pushing and pushing IBM to rebrand i5/OS for years now. Problem is, nobody is there long enough or takes it serious enough to move forward with it.

It sounds to me like Shearer is considering this idea, although it also seems like he hasn't realized it yet. I hope someday soon, we'll get a new OS called "BLUE" or whatever that can be told and sold to corporate types just like Windows, Linux and so on.

Imagine saying "We can install a Blue server here and that'll take care of it." Much more clean sales line that "With a System i and i5/OS (you know the old AS/400) would..."

Posted by: Bob Cozzi at March 3, 2008 4:18 PM

I agree with Steve if he is correct about the pricing. The main reason the iSeries hardware doesn't sell is because the Business Partners don't have the profit incentives. The retail price is able to be discounted 25% and most Business Partners discount the price 18% for a profit of 7%. The customer gets price quotes from other partners, the usual is about 7% no matter how much is sold. So sales people are selling HP Domes because their profit margin is about 15-to-20%.

As to Names limited to 10 characters I have not found a problem with that; however, I must say that the limitation doesn't exist with file names on the IFS and I can take SQL code with no changes and run it as an SQL Procedure on the iSeries. I have taken several applications off of various other servers and brought them to the iSeries with very few changes. This has brought stability to these systems.

I am familiar with .Net and I don't see the issue with ILE. Especially ILE Free and service programs. The applications we have written involved having 50,000 to 90,000 concurrent users accessing the same files/tables that contained over 70 million records. The purpose was to allow the customers and CSM's to pull up in PDF format the customer's statements which were stored on the IFS. This system has run for 3 years and has maintained 100% accuracy and subsecond response time. I don't think .Net is ready for prime time as I don't think .Net can handle that many concurrent users nor do I think .Net is capable of subsecond response time in retrieving a single PDF file from nearly 3 billion PDF's. That number is 12 statements per year times 7 years times more than 35 million customers. When .Net is capable of handling that sort of processing, then we can talk about the limitations of ILE or 10 character field names.

Posted by: Paul at March 3, 2008 4:30 PM

You've obviously not used .Net for development. .Net with the System i is very fast. Also, if you have 50,000 - 70,000 active users you probably have some pretty big iron which again would make .Net perform very well. Sounds to me like a little bit of apples and oranges.


Posted by: Richard Schoen at March 3, 2008 5:38 PM

Bob and Steve are both absolutely correct. We need a new box with a new name with a new language running on a new operating system.

A box that recreates the development efficiencies and economics of the original System/38.
One that makes generating web-deployed applications just as easy as what RPG and DDS did for green screens.

A new and better OS with a hierarchical filing system and longer object names that retains the object oriented nature of i5. The system has in fact run out of naming space and IBM has seen this for many years. Just look at all the APIs IBM has made available. That wouldn't be possible (make that readable) if limited to 10 character program names for each API.

A new totally free form language that makes business applications simple again and delivers us from the time wasting semi-colons, prototypes, and the need to spend time researching every procedure call to figure out if it wants a character field, variable length char field, a string, a pointer to one of these, or it can take what ever you want to give it. All other platforms have paled to this one because it takes 2 to 3 times more man hours to build an application and then it was unstable and non-scalable. Wouldn't you rather be designing and building applications than trying to figure out why some API doesn't work the way you expected.

I believe Steve was referring to IDE in his comments comparing it to .NET. If you have ever coded in Visual Basic, you already know exactly what Steve is talking about.

If you haven't used VB, there are no prototypes to build, copy, and maintain. You only have to key in a procedure name once (and sometimes not at all), not three times like RPG. There are no semi-colons at the end of each line, that when missing in RPG cause a million erroneous errors to appear. And the VB IDE (compare to WDSC) knows how many parameters each procedure has, what the parameters are called, and what should be passed to them. This is true whether you wrote the procedure, a vendor wrote the procedure, or it came with the system. AND the information is presented to you in a useful manner without any real effort.

Don't confuse this comparison of languages with the idea that Windows is capable of handling any sort of usable business work load. You can win many challenges from Wintel fans by making them download one of your production mega files and perform an interactive search over it with 100 simultaneous users. Oh yeah, almost forgot, the PC has to complete the search sometime in a second, not a minute, an hour, or a day. At this point the PC fan will think you're just kidding. This is unheard of in the PC realm, while it is just daily business in ours.

Our beloved box needs the kind of overhaul that the System 38 went through when it became the AS/400. No more hollow name changes that only further obscure this glorious platform. Unfortunately, our next metamorphosis won't be nearly as easy as the 38 to 400 migration was. But I would be happy to be wrong about that.

Posted by: Shane Poad at March 4, 2008 2:21 AM

Well, Chris is in good company as far as feeling that we're going towards pi.

The more correct assumption of course is that both System i and p are going to go away, with the respective OSes continuing on to run on a single POWER system. What I always find annoying is the comment that System i goes way without also mentioning p.

This is what should have happened years ago and we've all known this is coming.

The problem with i5/OS charges is that most folks don't understand the fact of what all is built in there. They equate it with a base Windows or AIX install, which of course it isn't.

The trouble is getting people to understand that point.

Posted by: Lerxst at March 4, 2008 7:16 AM

"... When I really listen to what our clients are asking for, they want to move forward with systems but they want protection of their investment. ..."

Customers certainly want their systems to run faster, but I question how important app compat is. Provide a feature locked version of i5/OS for users who want their apps to run as is. Rework i5/OS from the base level bits up and let Bob Cozzi name this new version. My guess is many customers would choose to repair their broken apps in order to run a modern i5/OS.

"...In my first two and half years in System i, I got an awful lot of feedback from clients that they wanted to pay for what they use, that they wanted us to improve the price-to-value ratio ..."

Shearer says this, then he slaps a $15K surcharge for i5/OS on each JS22 core. Confusing.

-Steve

Posted by: steve richter at March 4, 2008 10:51 AM

"One that makes generating web-deployed applications just as easy as what RPG and DDS did for green screens."

I'd settle for just that.


Posted by: Larryd at March 6, 2008 11:50 AM

Steve talks about app compatibility, but there any MS server solution loses big, because with every release they tell everybody to assume that the old programs are broken!

Another practical real-world difference. Steve should just stop whining and complaining and go find a Windoweenie box somewhere to lock himself into.

--Alan

Posted by: Alan at March 6, 2008 1:55 PM

Steve,
Names in ILE RPG can be much longer than 10 characters. That limitation was lifted from ILE RPG a long time ago, although it still exists in DDS ( but you have probably moved to SQL ) and having longer names in SQL also has been available for a long time. As for your comparison with .Net I agree that WDSc is lacking many things, especially frameworks.

Posted by: Antoon van Os at March 8, 2008 2:13 AM

It's not realistic to bring out another operating system. I would like to see an alternative shell for Linux, however. It would be great to see the infrastructure that gives us commands that can be filled in like data entry forms, even within SEU. I am quite happy with my Django and mysql since leaving the iSeries in 2004. But from time to time I do miss the OS/400 commandline and the object approach to system management and brilliantly consistent and mnemonic namespace.

Posted by: jorjun at March 10, 2008 8:21 PM

For an alternative to DDS for the Web, check out Icebreak. It works like ASP.NET but it uses RPG to build HTML pages. I've been through the tutorial and was very impressed with how easy it is to use -- virtually replacing the DDS with HTML. Of course, the Web is not a green screen, so there's a little learning curve, but not much. A lot of it is similar to CGIDEV2, but also has a ton of extra features, including specific support for AJAX / Web 2.0 apps.

Posted by: James at March 12, 2008 2:46 PM

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