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June 9, 2008

Bullish on Blades -- But Customers Hard to Find

Ninety percent of System i clients can fit on a POWER6-based blade, currently the 2-core 3.8 GHz JS12 and 4-core 4.0 GHz JS22, according to Mark Shearer, vice president of marketing for IBM Business Systems. Both blades are wicked fast, but it turns out that "fit" is more closely aligned with horsepower than trunk space. Although a Chevy Silverado pickup customer could theoretically upgrade to a Corvette, the driver might have to customize the Corvette with a hitch to drag along a storage trailer loaded with reality.

To put this in perspective and see how early interest in i blades is shaping up, I spoke with Stan Staszak, director of System i/x products for Sirius, an IBM Premier Business Partner. Interest, it turns out, is high, but sales are super low.

"We've been struggling to find the ideal customer or the perfect fit for the new blades," notes Staszak. "Ideally it would be a customer who already has the BladeCenter H chassis. Optimally you'd also want the customer to have either the DS4000 or DS8000 [series] external storage server. The challenge is, that's a really small subset of our customers. I'm sure those customers are out there and exist, but they also have to have the overlap of being an i-based shop."

Officially, in the BladeCenter H chassis for IBM i storage, IBM supports the IBM System Storage DS4700, DS4800, 8100, and DS8300 products connected via the VIOS partition.

Non-Compatible Storage

"It seems like the external storage has been the show stopper. Even if they are considering adopting the blade technology, they already have an investment in a non-compatible storage server," Staszak explains.

"I think the way we are ultimately going to overcome that is that IBM is going to have to do some additional testing to certify other storage servers. Based on the fact that we are utilizing Virtual I/O Server, it really shouldn't matter," he adds, noting that customers who have a different storage solution might be able to use it -- but it wouldn't be supported.

"I respect the fact that Rochester is being very conservative, and that's why they've only certified initially the DS4000 and 8000 because those are the only two they've tested. I think in the future we'll see some additional testing," Staszak says.

RAIDing the S

"Another thing I'd like to see is RAID support for the BladeCenter S chassis. If we could take advantage of the onboard disk in a JS12 or JS22 and utilize a subset of the 12 disks that are in a BladeCenter S chassis, but also support RAID, I think that would be a nice little offering. Right now we're forced to do either non-protected or mirroring and we're very limited by the maximum of 12 disks in that enclosure," Staszak explains. "So we're back to, 'OK, Mr. Customer, do you have any other external storage, and, if so, what type?'"

Where's the Fit Now?

If a customer doesn't already have a supported storage solution, who's going to buy a BladeCenter S? Staszak can see it going into organizations that have multiple distributed small servers, for example a retail environment that might also have a couple of Intel servers that could also be installed on the BladeCenter S.

Customers migrating from an older server that doesn't necessarily have a nice upgrade path might look at migrating to a blade-based environment. "But if they've got multiple towers worth of I/O adapters . . . probably not a good fit, so that's another important consideration: what kinds of adapters do they have today? And what are they actually using?" Staszak says, noting that some customers can be weaned off some of their more esoteric adapters.

Still, "If you're looking at the JS22, which has 13,800 CPW, you need a fair amount of disk arms to support that," he says.

"Based on the fact they are very powerful processors, we need to see some benchmarks as far as disk I/O performance, even using the DS4000 or 8000 with Virtual I/O Server, I'm hesitant to recommended it until we do some testing to make sure disk I/O is not a bottleneck," he explains.

Sirius has run through a lot of different scenarios for customers, but in most cases, the standalone box running IBM i 5.4 or 6.1 has remained the more attractive option -- though that's not to say blades aren't going to become a better solution as IBM keeps refining its offerings.

"I think blades are going to help people stay on the platform, and I'm ecouraged to see Rochester take these steps. I'm a big fan, a big proponent of the blade in general," Staszak says. "In the future, five-to-ten years, it's going to be widely adopted. We're still in the ramp-up phase."

Posted by cmaxcer at June 9, 2008 9:43 AM

Comments

This is an example of IBM and its Agents not providing a "Rich" Migration Path. My IT Department has 45 major SQL Servers and numerous other servers (350 of them) now happily residing on VM servers thanks to Microsoft Server 2003.

Many products offered in the i-World lack:


  1. Migration Path for Code/400 users. Hey! I know this isn't a server but it's all part of the same Mind-Set. Hardware purchases are plunging right now. Software purchases extending capabilities have a chance.
  2. DB/2 and SQL Server 2005 Interoperability. System-i Access issues with MS SQL Server 2005 but not 2000. Since MS is not doing anything about it, IBM must. Nothing done here.
  3. Lack of Migration Path offered to Windows Shops. Hey! If IBM is serious about being competitive about their System-i, WHERE are the migration paths for ANYBODY else
    out there? Looks as if IBM ceded the field to MS, Huh?
  4. Looks like IBM is hanging REXX out to dry. Looks like the IFS is getting short shrift. Looks like a Robust VB.NET migration path is not in the works.

My shop is also experiencing major increases in its electrical power billings. Suddenly power as in Europe and the UK has become very, very important. That is another constraint on new server purchases. If we consider a blade, all disk storage may have to be considered compatible for the Blade to be competitive.

My answer to IBM is compatibility, compatibility, compatibility and flexibility.

These are the times for reasonable expectations.

I hope IBM goes back to the drawing board really fast!

--John deCoville

Posted by: John deCoville at June 9, 2008 1:00 PM

John, I'm not sure what you mean with "VM servers thanks to Microsoft Server 2003." ?

The only possibility to do that is to use the "VM Workstation" product, which needs a host system to run like fi. Windows 2003.
The better choice would be to use "VM ESX server" for example, which uses its own Linux based host o/s.

Naturally, on top of these 2 VMware products, you can run a pletora of Windows, Linux, BSD Unix, Sun Solaris systems all side by side and simultaneously.
In our shop, we are exploring right now the lastest "Windows 2008 Data Center" o/s under VMware. It proves to be extremely stable and very scalable, although nobody is very fond of its Vista-like interface. Interesting is that MS is trying to counter the success of VMWare, so they deliver 2008 with its own build in virtualization softw called "Hypervisor 2008". Not sure if it performs better than VM, but it is the next item to test on our list.

The net result of course is the number of server boxes (and power consumption) has reduced quite a bit, to the level of 10 years ago. Now we do our IT operations with only 3 19-inch racks which contain also the primary patch panels. We serve about 5000 users cross country. And no, not on AS/400, Wintel (Dell and HP) gear only.

Posted by: ugeerts at June 11, 2008 2:30 PM

Ugeerts,


Thanks to the VMware we are using, we have cut, big time, our power consumption way down but not to the level of 10 years ago.

Because of IBM's initial Blade offering, they did not even get in the door with our management some months ago. But now we have brand-new disks which will facilitate the Blade as an option.

I'd like to see your IT operation's Racks! We have about 3,000 employees and our Web sites have about 6-10 million visits a month.

Posted by: John deCoville at June 11, 2008 5:47 PM

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